Shooting Long Range
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Shooting Long Range
If your a long range shooter, you know that keeping your weapons information is a must to maintain consistency in the field.
why pay for data book pages when you can get them for free?
I am not sure of anyone in here besides me and 2 other guys that like to shoot out to 1000 yards and beyond. It will probably help reloaders better than me cause I havent set up shop yet to make my own rounds (soon enough though).
anyways, here are some links you can use to put your own DOPE DATA BOOKS together for free!
Happy shooting!
-TT
http://www.primalrights.com/databook/info.pdf
http://www.primalrights.com/databook/round_count.pdf
http://www.primalrights.com/databook/lo ... opment.pdf
http://www.primalrights.com/databook/chrono.pdf
http://www.primalrights.com/databook/blank.pdf
http://www.primalrights.com/databook/IPSC.pdf
these next links have great info on em and data entry books. Enjoy!
http://www.shootingvoodoo.com/index.php/library/
http://www.shootingvoodoo.com/index.php ... et_sheets/
http://www.shootingvoodoo.com/index.php ... ce_sheets/
and if you guys are looking for a couple handy products "a must have" for long range shooting IMO
http://www.triadtactical.com/Mildot-Master.html
http://www.triadtactical.com/US-Tactica ... plate.html
why pay for data book pages when you can get them for free?
I am not sure of anyone in here besides me and 2 other guys that like to shoot out to 1000 yards and beyond. It will probably help reloaders better than me cause I havent set up shop yet to make my own rounds (soon enough though).
anyways, here are some links you can use to put your own DOPE DATA BOOKS together for free!
Happy shooting!
-TT
http://www.primalrights.com/databook/info.pdf
http://www.primalrights.com/databook/round_count.pdf
http://www.primalrights.com/databook/lo ... opment.pdf
http://www.primalrights.com/databook/chrono.pdf
http://www.primalrights.com/databook/blank.pdf
http://www.primalrights.com/databook/IPSC.pdf
these next links have great info on em and data entry books. Enjoy!
http://www.shootingvoodoo.com/index.php/library/
http://www.shootingvoodoo.com/index.php ... et_sheets/
http://www.shootingvoodoo.com/index.php ... ce_sheets/
and if you guys are looking for a couple handy products "a must have" for long range shooting IMO
http://www.triadtactical.com/Mildot-Master.html
http://www.triadtactical.com/US-Tactica ... plate.html
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Re: Shooting Long Range
good information. My drop charts I run off G7 program. I have them @ various temps & altitude (1000, 3200,5000) along with 3 custom turrets set for those settings too. I like a laser range finder w/ ARC, wind meter, compass, scratch paper, spotting scope. I dont reload my round. I have a small ammo company that loaded the best round for that rifle. I shipped the rifle to them, they build the round around the set up I have. Took the data, enter it in a computer for the conditions I'll mostly shoot or hunt at. They worked up a load. They took all the rifle information scope height, zero range, zero height, incline, click value custom load, all that was down loaded to a disk for me. I sent that info to Vortex for 3 different turrets @ 3 different altitude, temp, so-on so-on. The ammo, pretty dang pricy, but extremely happy.
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Re: Shooting Long Range
if your scope sits on a 20 MOA rail with 1 inch rings what yardage are you zeroed at? how much per round (7mm right?)?
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Re: Shooting Long Range
100yrds. My scope has 58 MOA of adjustment, I'm just about bottomed out. I'm 2.75" high @ 100, 295 @ zero my rounds cost 54.00 for 10, 95.00 for 20
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Re: Shooting Long Range
@ $5.50 a pop, you should be shooting 338 rounds for the extra long shots. no way i could afford that. I would definitely reload my own at that cost.
My Nightforce NSX only has 45 MOA but I am zeroed at 200 yards. any more than that and my POI is too high below 100 yards.
My Nightforce NSX only has 45 MOA but I am zeroed at 200 yards. any more than that and my POI is too high below 100 yards.
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Re: Shooting Long Range
thats the nice thing of a custom built rifle & custom ammo, no one else has it. I'm completely content with the price of the ammo. My 7mm performs extremely well and I like things different than anyone else has. My turkey gun for example, Stoeger Condor Prem 12ga. 26" barrels. I had Rob Roberts back bore the barrels to 740, cone work, chamber polished, & he made the tubes to match the bore x2 @ the restriction of 665. The reciever I sent to O&U Specialities, had them change the recoil set triggers to mechanical & do a trigger job to 4lbs. Now the barrel work was 680.00 the receiver work was 240.00 the tubes well? we wont go their and the shotgun only cost me 599.00. But I have a one of a kind turkey gun, that loves 2oz. #6 Hevi Shot. 40 yards 10" 185, 186, 182. Some think is that all that does? yeap! It was computer pattern analyze by Rob roberts for the turkey factor % which meets all of that and more in the 15" 1" grid.
I done the same with my coyote shotgun too.
I done the same with my coyote shotgun too.
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Re: Shooting Long Range
Like the data sheets. I keep all of my information in a notebook and there are times when references past material I have a hard time interpreting what I wrote down. The data sheets would reduce the amount of forgotten details, but you'd need a binder to keep all of that in and it would fill up fast.
I don't know how you guys shoot long range without reloading your own brass. There is an accuracy you can only get by dialing in a custom load and I couldn't afford to pay someone to do it.
I don't know how you guys shoot long range without reloading your own brass. There is an accuracy you can only get by dialing in a custom load and I couldn't afford to pay someone to do it.
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Re: Shooting Long Range
toasty wrote:I don't know how you guys shoot long range without reloading your own brass. There is an accuracy you can only get by dialing in a custom load and I couldn't afford to pay someone to do it.
heres one, then how does the military snipers or military competitive shooters do? The small company I use that reloads my ammo, reloads for serveral Lawenforcement SWAT Teams through out the U.S.A. not counting serveral different competitive shooters. If you read my post Quote" good information. My drop charts I run off G7 program. I have them @ various temps & altitude (1000, 3200,5000) along with 3 custom turrets set for those settings too. I like a laser range finder w/ ARC, wind meter, compass, scratch paper, spotting scope. I dont reload my round. I have a small ammo company that loaded the best round for that rifle. I shipped the rifle to them, they build the round around the set up I have. Took the data, enter it in a computer for the conditions I'll mostly shoot or hunt at. They worked up a load. They took all the rifle information scope height, zero range, zero height, incline, click value custom load, all that was down loaded to a disk for me. I sent that info to Vortex for 3 different turrets @ 3 different altitude, temp, so-on so-on. The ammo, pretty dang pricy, but extremely happy" Unquote I sent him the rifle, and he found what that rifle like to eat & spit out. Their is a custom optimum load loaded for that rifle. He had the rifle for months. What I decide to pay is my choice anyhow. The rifle shoot less than 1/4 MOA @ 100
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Re: Shooting Long Range
Ammo .308 Winchester Federal Gold Medal Match BTHP 168 Grain
works great in my Savage 10 FCP HS.
Im talking 1/4 to 1/2 MOA at 100 yards.
No need to reload there. not until I get the proper set up as I live in apts. right now.
I dont competition shoot. So shooting under MOA is good if you can find the right ammo.
if you go through different types of ammo until you find a good match, you can tweak from there on your own.
works great in my Savage 10 FCP HS.
Im talking 1/4 to 1/2 MOA at 100 yards.
No need to reload there. not until I get the proper set up as I live in apts. right now.
I dont competition shoot. So shooting under MOA is good if you can find the right ammo.
if you go through different types of ammo until you find a good match, you can tweak from there on your own.
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Re: Shooting Long Range
I had a Remington 700 tactical that I had for years & shot Remington 308 Win 168gr. Match King BTHP. Man did that stuff shoot. Wow! dang near same wholer @ 100. I love the 168 for a 30 cal.Turkey Talker wrote:Ammo .308 Winchester Federal Gold Medal Match BTHP 168 Grain
works great in my Savage 10 FCP HS.
Im talking 1/4 to 1/2 MOA at 100 yards.
No need to reload there. not until I get the proper set up as I live in apts. right now.
I dont competition shoot. So shooting under MOA is good if you can find the right ammo.
if you go through different types of ammo until you find a good match, you can tweak from there on your own.
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Re: Shooting Long Range
Never sell that gun and buy a truckload of ammo. That is great accuracy out of factory gun with factory ammo. In the large calibers, I've never had a factory load pattern better than 1". I've had some 6mm and smaller offering do a little better than 1", but never anything bigger than 6mm. Even in reloads, I feel really good about .5" with large calibers.Turkey Talker wrote:Ammo .308 Winchester Federal Gold Medal Match BTHP 168 Grain
works great in my Savage 10 FCP HS.
Im talking 1/4 to 1/2 MOA at 100 yards.
No need to reload there. not until I get the proper set up as I live in apts. right now.
I dont competition shoot. So shooting under MOA is good if you can find the right ammo.
if you go through different types of ammo until you find a good match, you can tweak from there on your own.