kicks and hevi shot

adamfletcher38 · Post by **adamfletcher38** » March 14th, 2013, 4:23 pm

Kicks says not to shoot hevi shot. Has anyone actually heard of any problems doing so?

ICDEDTURKES · Post by **ICDEDTURKES** » March 14th, 2013, 4:46 pm

This questions comes up regular on these forums.. Many members including myself have put Hevi through a Kicks choke with no ill effects.. I believe there is a pic of a Comp N Choke tube that sheered but it has a different construction albeit same mfg.. But nobody knows their own choke more than the designer himself.

Its a try at your own risk adventure.. Not going to tell you to do it or not do it.

Johndoe · Post by **Johndoe** » March 14th, 2013, 6:34 pm

I have and will again. I also shoot it thru a C-N-C. It is my firm belief that the issues with Hevi in them was that people were running large Hevi thru tight chokes and I does not do well. I also dont buy the Nitro Company Hevi shot is coated so well its ok to shoot thru a Kicks or C-N-C. Boswell just has an issue with EM. IMHO

JD

GOLD HUNTER · Post by **GOLD HUNTER** » March 14th, 2013, 6:40 pm

i had one and shot hevi and tss in it and it did a good job

Post by **Hoobilly** » March 14th, 2013, 7:13 pm

I never had a problem doing it, but I ask why shoot hevi thru it when they shoot so much better with better tubes?

Rockhound · Post by **Rockhound** » March 15th, 2013, 5:10 pm

I have run SEVERAL through mine and no ill effects, email charlie boswell about the issue. He will tell you federal heavyweight, nitros, handloads and xtended range are safe but EM hevi is not

slickyboyboo · Post by **slickyboyboo** » March 18th, 2013, 4:08 pm

Below is some correspondence I had with Chuck Boswell and Nitro on the subject matter in question back in 2009. It seems that he gets very confused when you start quizzing him on specifics. That being said, My go to choke on my 12 ga 1 3/4 oz handload is a .660 Kicks in my 870.

----- Original Message -----
From: Barry Moore <slickyboyboo@gmail.com>
To: info@kicks-ind.com
Subject: Choke/Shot Question
Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 09:49:07 -0600

> I have a 665 XXXFull Comp N Choke for my Ruger Red Label, and
> I am wondering about shooting certain shot types out of it.
> There has been speculation about what can be shot out of
> these chokes. I know that steel is out of the question, as
> I wouldn't shot steel at turkeys anyway. My question is
> about regular Hevishot. Is it ok to shoot Hevishot through
> your Comp N Chokes or Kicks. I know your website say no
> hevishot, or steel, but a few folks have said that they
> have gotten responses from you that said Hevi was OK to
> shoot. I just wanted to get a clear answer from the people
> that really know.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Barry Moore

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On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 11:50 AM, kicks <kicks@planters.net> wrote:

They are certain types of heavy pellets that are safe but
anything from Hevi shot is not. The hevi shot pellets are
twice as hard as steel shot. The Winchester Xtended range is
Ok as is the Federal Heavyweight & any of the heavy shot
loads by Nitro Company.

Thanks,

Chuck

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----- Original Message -----
From: Barry Moore <slickyboyboo@gmail.com>

To: kicks <kicks@planters.net>
Subject: Re: Choke/Shot Question
Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 12:42:02 -0600

> But why are the Nitro Hevishot loads safe, and regular
> Hevishot not? They are both the same exact thing. Nitro
> buys their Hevishot in bulk from Environmetal.

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On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 12:38 PM, kicks <kicks@planters.net> wrote:

Ray @ Nitro has sense enough to put some lead pellets mixed
with the hevi shot pellets to produce a buffer if the shot
builds pressure. The factory hevi shot loads to not!

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Barry Moore <slickyboyboo@gmail.com>
2/5/09

to nitroammo

I have a question regarding your 100% Hevi-shot loads. Is there any lead added to these 100% Hevi-shot loads?
Chuck from Kick's/Comp N Choke seems to think there is. He says that your Hevi-shot shells can be shot through
a Kick's/Comp N Choke, but Environmetal's Hevi-shot loads can't because they don't include any lead in their shells.

Thanks for the info,

Barry Moore

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NitroAmmo@aol.com
2/5/09

to me

Barry,
Our hevi-shot loads are exactly that hevi-shot. The economy load which is 4cx5cx7h, the 4's and 5's are a copper
plated lead. If there is anything else please let me know. Thank you!
Donna
Nitro Company Ammunition
7560 Newkirk Road
Mountain Grove, MO 65711
417-746-4600
http://www.nitrocompany.com

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Barry Moore <slickyboyboo@gmail.com>
2/5/09

to kicks

This is what I just received from Nitro Ammo. I am just trying to clarify what is OK to shoot and what is not, that way
if my Comp N Choke messes up or my Barrel gets messed up, I know who to talk to about getting it taken care of. Just
trying to cover my tail and get the facts, not trying to be a smart butt or anything.

Thanks,

Barry

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kicks <kicks@planters.net>
2/5/09

to me

No problem Barry. I would not shoot anything that was a
straight hevi shot load in a turkey choke unless you are
prepared for the possibility of barrel damage. We will not
be responsible for damage occuring when you are shooting any
straight hevi shot loads. As for the Nitro loads, I have
never heard of anyone having barrel problems with those
loads. I have heard many problems with the old Remington
hevi shot loads as well as the hevi 13 loads.

ICDEDTURKES · Post by **ICDEDTURKES** » March 18th, 2013, 5:02 pm

turkey_slayer · Post by **turkey_slayer** » March 18th, 2013, 5:27 pm

I remember you posting that on the other board and I my mind still hasn't changed. Chuck is a few bricks short of a load. He would die if he knew I shot a bunch of tss through a kicks .655 tube.

slickyboyboo · Post by **slickyboyboo** » March 18th, 2013, 9:00 pm

turkey_slayer wrote:I remember you posting that on the other board and I my mind still hasn't changed. Chuck is a few bricks short of a load. He would die if he knew I shot a bunch of tss through a kicks .655 tube.

Agreed! However, he would probably say TSS is safe for his chokes. LOL

Post by **Hoobilly** » March 18th, 2013, 9:19 pm

that guy is a nut. who in their right mind would buy a tube from a person who says that you cant shoot Hevi, but Nitro Hevi is okay?

turkey_slayer · Post by **turkey_slayer** » March 18th, 2013, 9:49 pm

slickyboyboo wrote:
turkey_slayer wrote:I remember you posting that on the other board and I my mind still hasn't changed. Chuck is a few bricks short of a load. He would die if he knew I shot a bunch of tss through a kicks .655 tube.
Agreed! However, he would probably say TSS is safe for his chokes. LOL

He would if I told him winchester was making the shot for me lol. They were a good choke and still are but theres much better to choose from now

Shooter · Post by **Shooter** » March 18th, 2013, 10:33 pm

hoobilly wrote:that guy is a nut. who in their right mind would buy a tube from a person who says that you cant shoot Hevi, but Nitro Hevi is okay?

he must be related to shannon,...lol

Post by **Hoobilly** » March 18th, 2013, 11:12 pm

Shooter wrote:
hoobilly wrote:that guy is a nut. who in their right mind would buy a tube from a person who says that you cant shoot Hevi, but Nitro Hevi is okay?
he must be related to shannon,...lol

I thought that, but didnt want to say it out load on here. never know when the mods are gonna come down on ya.

slickyboyboo · Post by **slickyboyboo** » March 18th, 2013, 11:20 pm

ICDEDTURKES · Post by **ICDEDTURKES** » March 19th, 2013, 10:49 am

Many moons ago, kicks used to be one of the premiere tubes.. Than came Hevi and his fears which was understood at the time.. But C'mon build a heavy approved tube for crying out loud.. I would hate to see how his market share has plummeted do to this.

Post by **redarrow** » March 19th, 2013, 11:42 am

hoobilly wrote:
Shooter wrote:
hoobilly wrote:that guy is a nut. who in their right mind would buy a tube from a person who says that you cant shoot Hevi, but Nitro Hevi is okay?
he must be related to shannon,...lol
I thought that, but didnt want to say it out load on here. never know when the mods are gonna come down on ya.

I got the axe good and sharp boys. Watchitya'll.

ILIKEFLASHLIGHTS · Post by **ILIKEFLASHLIGHTS** » March 21st, 2013, 6:05 pm

Charlie Boswell I believe is getting some kickback for promoting Winchester shells to all of his customers is what I think. I'll leave it at that. I see no problem whatsoever of shooting Hevi-13 through a Kicks turkey choke. The Kicks chokes are made out of the exact same 17-4(ph) meaning pre-hardened which means heat treated stainless steel that the other choke companies use like Indian Creek or Pure Gold, etc... So do the math. I know I wouldn't think twice about shooting Hevi-13 through a Kicks choke.

ILIKEFLASHLIGHTS · Post by **ILIKEFLASHLIGHTS** » March 21st, 2013, 6:11 pm

I have actually examined a Kicks turkey choke while at Bass Pro a few years ago. They are a beefy stout front end thick choke. I for the life of me can't see one blowing up shooting any turkey load through it from factory ammo.

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