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I’ll try and get pictures of my scope and setup sometime tomorrow. Got the Burris Droptine 4.5-14x42 with mildot basically dialed in today

After finding out the powder I originally started with was bad due to moisture creeping in before I purchased it, I was given info on just using Vihatourhi N110 powder safely.


I believe this load will shoot better than I am able to shoot it.

Wanting to be close to dead on at 200 I dialed it in when I was a inch low and decided to shoot it at 100 to see how high it would be. Aiming at center it shot 4” high.

Now I am trying to decide how I want to set this gun up. Dead on at 100 and use the mildots for the 2-300!yards? Or be basically a inch low at 200 and 4” high at 200 and go shoot for 300 and see where it’s at? Never used mildots much and don’t want to make it confusing for deer.

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Why not 3 inches high at 100. 3 inches low at 200. Should be dead on at 150.
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redarrow wrote: December 15th, 2019, 8:38 am Why not 3 inches high at 100. 3 inches low at 200. Should be dead on at 150.
That’s possible. Mostly depends on how it shoots at 300 with the scope
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Mine's 3 " at 100 -3/4" at 200 and 16" low at 300 That's a 250 grain bullet at 2700 fps

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DBLGBL wrote: December 15th, 2019, 7:42 pm Mine's 3 " at 100 -3/4" at 200 and 16" low at 300 That's a 250 grain bullet at 2700 fps

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we would've checked fps but the breeze we had kept reading on the chrono so maybe one day this coming week I will find out how fast or slow it is.
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Here’s a couple pictures

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Mildot. Like this as you’ll be able to quickly find what yardage the scope is dialed in at. Looking forward to more range time on 100 yard grouping to stretching it out to 300 and see how good it does

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Nice set up buddy!!! Time to let the hammer down on something!!! :thumbup:
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2Shooter wrote: December 15th, 2019, 9:16 pm Nice set up buddy!!! Time to let the hammer down on something!!! :thumbup:
Since I’ve killed my buck I’m taking a few others deer hunting. I want to whack something so bad I keep praying for a coyote to show up 😆
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I too shoot the Encore smokeless with N110. I like the Burris Ballistic Plex with my barrel. You can adjust the power ring to fit the drop you desire at 300yds. Just zero at 100 and then using a tall piece of cardboard at 300 with the target dot at the top of the cardboard shoot with the crosshair on the dot. Where the bullet hits the cardboard is your 300 yd zero on your particular scope. Changing the power will move the mil-dots up and down. You then can figure out the rest of the distances.

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PS I killed a pretty nice one at 293 yards this fall in Va.
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youngoutdoors wrote: December 15th, 2019, 10:51 pm I too shoot the Encore smokeless with N110. I like the Burris Ballistic Plex with my barrel. You can adjust the power ring to fit the drop you desire at 300yds. Just zero at 100 and then using a tall piece of cardboard at 300 with the target dot at the top of the cardboard shoot with the crosshair on the dot. Where the bullet hits the cardboard is your 300 yd zero on your particular scope. Changing the power will move the mil-dots up and down. You then can figure out the rest of the distances.

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PS I killed a pretty nice one at 293 yards this fall in Va.
congrats on a long range whitetail! I wish this scope was first focal plane! that way I could move the power setting and the crosshairs wouldn't mess up for being dead on where I would like them
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hoobilly wrote: December 15th, 2019, 11:06 pm
youngoutdoors wrote: December 15th, 2019, 10:51 pm I too shoot the Encore smokeless with N110. I like the Burris Ballistic Plex with my barrel. You can adjust the power ring to fit the drop you desire at 300yds. Just zero at 100 and then using a tall piece of cardboard at 300 with the target dot at the top of the cardboard shoot with the crosshair on the dot. Where the bullet hits the cardboard is your 300 yd zero on your particular scope. Changing the power will move the mil-dots up and down. You then can figure out the rest of the distances.

God Bless, Louis

PS I killed a pretty nice one at 293 yards this fall in Va.
congrats on a long range whitetail! I wish this scope was first focal plane! that way I could move the power setting and the crosshairs wouldn't mess up for being dead on where I would like them
I guess I should have said the image will move up and down the reticle. My scope is second focal plane too. I just use it on the power that matches my drop at 100-300 yds. IF i am in the woods I simply crank the power down since shots will likely be less than my 100 yd zero.

AM I making any sense?

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youngoutdoors wrote: December 15th, 2019, 11:40 pm

I guess I should have said the image will move up and down the reticle. My scope is second focal plane too. I just use it on the power that matches my drop at 100-300 yds. IF i am in the woods I simply crank the power down since shots will likely be less than my 100 yd zero.

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Has any of you shot N120 ?

This looks about perfect for me. I really want 2600fps or faster to minimize drop out to 300
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No I use 4198. What ignition system are you shooting?

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DBLGBL wrote: December 19th, 2019, 3:52 pm No I use 4198. What ignition system are you shooting?

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N120 is exactly what you want... start at 60grs. What bullet are you using? I’ve never heard of or experienced N120 being temp sensitive. I have a Apex conversion with a Leupold vx3 cds 4-14x40 dial and shoot. Shoots MOA at 300yds.
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Roost 1 wrote: December 19th, 2019, 9:04 pm N120 is exactly what you want... start at 60grs. What bullet are you using? I’ve never heard of or experienced N120 being temp sensitive. I have a Apex conversion with a Leupold vx3 cds 4-14x40 dial and shoot. Shoots MOA at 300yds.
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60grs N120
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using the harvester blue sabot with the 200gn Hornady SST from Luke at arrowhead

our muzzleloader season is almost over here in Indiana. once its out I will be buying the N120 to try

I also am working on a special gas seal that works with certain bullets. Hoping to have them in a month and start testing them
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Roost 1 wrote: December 19th, 2019, 9:04 pm N120 is exactly what you want... start at 60grs. What bullet are you using? I’ve never heard of or experienced N120 being temp sensitive. I have a Apex conversion with a Leupold vx3 cds 4-14x40 dial and shoot. Shoots MOA at 300yds.
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where did you get your 195gn barnes?
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What weight bullet are you wanting to shoot hoobilly? I am guessing everyone knows the lighter the bullet the more powder. IF you are using a heavier bullet I would start loads quite a bit lighter than 60 grains with the N120. I have never tried N120 but have reloaded alot of ammo over the years. The Encore barrels are not as stout as one with a reciever around the barrel.

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youngoutdoors wrote: December 24th, 2019, 12:49 am What weight bullet are you wanting to shoot hoobilly? I am guessing everyone knows the lighter the bullet the more powder. IF you are using a heavier bullet I would start loads quite a bit lighter than 60 grains with the N120. I have never tried N120 but have reloaded alot of ammo over the years. The Encore barrels are not as stout as one with a reciever around the barrel.

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Right now I’m using the 200 grain hornady sst. Gonna try the 195 Barnes also. If I ever go sabotleas I will be trying the 245 Barnes and maybe some others
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