Light 12s

[howl]

I got a hankering for a SxS. I'm thinking to load 1 1/8oz T9.5s to avoid regulation issues. That means a 12 gauge. I understand some of your upland guns go six pounds or maybe less? I will probably go put a Yildiz on a scale, but I am looking for suggestions on others I don't know about. Thanks.

[brobi9]

I can’t speak for the sxs but the yildiz single is around 4 pound with a trimmed stock and 18.5” barrel. I can get you an actual weight later if you want it

[Turkinator]

I have a SKB model100 SxS 12ga that’s under 6lbs. I’m plotting on shooting a 1.625oz load in it . It has truchoke thin wall chokes. It was my Ohio mountain grouse gun before they became extinct

[howl]

I have a SKB model100 SxS 12ga that’s under 6lbs. I’m plotting on shooting a 1.625oz load in it . It has truchoke thin wall chokes. It was my Ohio mountain grouse gun before they became extinct

Looks like there's a 26" model with chrome lined barrels, too.

[Turkinator]

I have a SKB model100 SxS 12ga that’s under 6lbs. I’m plotting on shooting a 1.625oz load in it . It has truchoke thin wall chokes. It was my Ohio mountain grouse gun before they became extinct

Looks like there's a 26" model with chrome lined barrels, too.

Mine is one of the older ones that skb made for Ithaca

[Spuriosity]

My 12 ga Beretta 686/UL with 28" barrels was listed at 5 lbs 14 oz, but mine weighs in at 6 lbs even. Unfortunately they are no longer made, but if you find a used one, I would snatch it up. Mine is my turkey gun and grouse gun until they go extinct here in WNC. They are well on their way. Was fortunate enough to kill 3 of them this year, while buddies of mine that are good grouse hunters with good dogs didn't kill any.

[howl]

I read that Ithaca is a desirable model for certain uses, driving up the price. Is the stock neutral?

Grouse is the bird. Couldn't remember what it was the upland hunters wanted an extra light gun for. Do y'all find 1 1/8oz shoots where it should? I'm not into this idea past loading shells and buying an extra flush choke or two.

[howl]

Yildiz SxS is near 7#.

[Spuriosity]

I got a hankering for a SxS. I'm thinking to load 1 1/8oz T9.5s to avoid regulation issues. That means a 12 gauge. I understand some of your upland guns go six pounds or maybe less? I will probably go put a Yildiz on a scale, but I am looking for suggestions on others I don't know about. Thanks.

Why does it have to be a 12 ga? With 1 1/8 oz TSS loads, it could be 12, 16, 20 or 28, right?

[howl]

The idea is to keep POI of both barrels closer together by using a load similar to what the gun may have been built to use.

[crow]

The idea is to keep POI of both barrels closer together by using a load similar to what the gun may have been built to use.

I experimented with an old 12 gauge double (6 7/8ths lbs) last summer with TSS #9's and HVWT #7 and #6's with 1 1/8th ounce loads on up to 1 7/16th loads.

the left barrel still shot to the left and the right barrel shot to the right even with the light 1 1/8 oz loads. It was less "off" than the heavier loads, but still off left and right compared to lead.

[howl]

That's handy info. Thanks.

[GLS]

Howl, based on poorcountrypreacher's account of attempting to get both barrels to shoot the same POI with TSS, it's an expensive, maddening process with no guarantee it can be done. That's why I have convinced myself (with the consequences) that a single-shot is the way to go. Gil

[howl]

Well, if we're gonna talk sense about the thing...

[BrowningGuy88]

I think the only reasonable way of looking at a double is trying to get one barrel to shoot at 40-50 yards dead on and the other dead on at 15-25 yards with an open choke.

[crow]

I think the only reasonable way of looking at a double is trying to get one barrel to shoot at 40-50 yards dead on and the other dead on at 15-25 yards with an open choke.

^^ this is probably the way to set them up with the least amount of frustration, especially if it's a gun you don't want to file the chokes on.

the old 12 ga. double I was experimenting with is not choked very tight, the only way it's going to get to 45yds, is with T9's or HVWT 7's in the left barrel for a 38-40yd shot, (or #6 lead for 35yds)

And in the right barrel shooting the size of lead shot that Capt. Bogardus hunted turkeys with, using the right barrel for a backup for a little more distance. It will shoot 1 1/4oz of lead to POA.


I'm also working with a 20 ga. Bobwhite and it's set up with Fio golden pheasant in the right barrel for 35 yds and T9's in the left for farther shots.
I'm still experimenting with TSS and HVWT in the right barrel and will probably end up using Poor Country Preachers choke filing method to adjust POI.

[howl]

I wonder if providing more cushion in the wad column, to make TSS act more like lead perhaps, would bring points of impact closer together. This is all more than I'm willing to put into a gun I'd only use a few days per year after turkeys.

[BrowningGuy88]

I wonder if providing more cushion in the wad column, to make TSS act more like lead perhaps, would bring points of impact closer together. This is all more than I'm willing to put into a gun I'd only use a few days per year after turkeys.

I’m honestly leaning to your way of thinking and heck I’ve got a post out inquiring about a new double...

[howl]

I can’t speak for the sxs but the yildiz single is around 4 pound with a trimmed stock and 18.5” barrel. I can get you an actual weight later if you want it

Saw where someone did one with a scope on, and under 6#. Neat rig.