Opening up a choke

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Opening up a choke

Post by killerstump » May 14th, 2017, 4:39 pm

Choke I recently got from sumtoy is choking the tss to much. Think it's a .520 like to open it up to a xf! What's steps need to take to take few off to open it some. Is that done with a lathe? Or would I be better off just sell it and buy something else?

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Re: Opening up a choke

Post by GLS » May 14th, 2017, 5:02 pm

try a load without buffer.

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Re: Opening up a choke

Post by guesswho » May 14th, 2017, 5:06 pm

If your machining skills are anything like mine, sell it and buy another choke.
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Opening up a choke

Post by killerstump » May 14th, 2017, 5:25 pm

guesswho wrote:If your machining skills are anything like mine, sell it and buy another choke.
Oh I wouldn't do it haha I'd have someone else. May be my best bet tho to sell it.

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Re: Opening up a choke

Post by 2Shooter » May 14th, 2017, 8:26 pm

killerstump wrote:Choke I recently got from sumtoy is choking the tss to much. Think it's a .520 like to open it up to a xf! What's steps need to take to take few off to open it some. Is that done with a lathe? Or would I be better off just sell it and buy something else?
Trulock Beretta 28ga chokes show .519 for a extra full, and .532 for a full. You might get a good gunsmith to open it up a few thousands.

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Re: Opening up a choke

Post by killerstump » May 14th, 2017, 8:28 pm

2Shooter wrote:
killerstump wrote:Choke I recently got from sumtoy is choking the tss to much. Think it's a .520 like to open it up to a xf! What's steps need to take to take few off to open it some. Is that done with a lathe? Or would I be better off just sell it and buy something else?
Trulock Beretta 28ga chokes show .519 for a extra full, and .532 for a full. You might get a good gunsmith to open it up a few thousands.
.519 for a extra full hmmm this 1 is pose be
.520.

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Re: Opening up a choke

Post by 870 Shooter » May 14th, 2017, 9:00 pm

Sumtoy won't swap you another choke for it? He's always been good about that. I'd call him. Maybe he can open it up for you.

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Re: Opening up a choke

Post by killerstump » May 14th, 2017, 9:03 pm

870 Shooter wrote:Sumtoy won't swap you another choke for it? He's always been good about that. I'd call him. Maybe he can open it up for you.
I don't know how to reply to that

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Re: Opening up a choke

Post by slickyboyboo » May 14th, 2017, 9:10 pm

870 Shooter wrote:Sumtoy won't swap you another choke for it? He's always been good about that. I'd call him. Maybe he can open it up for you.
With his experience with SumToy on that gun, I don't think he wants him to touch it again.


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Re: Opening up a choke

Post by Grumpy » May 14th, 2017, 9:13 pm

Get a handfull of the biggest slugs you can find, heat it up to cherry red and shoot the slugs as fast as you can
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Re: Opening up a choke

Post by killerstump » May 14th, 2017, 9:20 pm

Grumpy wrote:Get a handfull of the biggest slugs you can find, heat it up to cherry red and shoot the slugs as fast as you can
Lmao grumpy you crack me up. But I do got a set of good torches

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Re: Opening up a choke

Post by killerstump » May 14th, 2017, 9:21 pm

slickyboyboo wrote:
870 Shooter wrote:Sumtoy won't swap you another choke for it? He's always been good about that. I'd call him. Maybe he can open it up for you.
With his experience with SumToy on that gun, I don't think he wants him to touch it again.


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Re: Opening up a choke

Post by pullit » May 15th, 2017, 7:25 am

most chokes are heat treated and harder than a wedding night pecker. You could try a hone to remove a few thousands.
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Re: Opening up a choke

Post by Johndoe » May 15th, 2017, 8:17 am

If it has the straight rifling I wouldn't put a hone in it.
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There are no numbers on any of my clocks below 8. Then all of a sudden, 2 days before turkey season they appear. Then right after the season they disappear.
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Re: Opening up a choke

Post by pullit » May 15th, 2017, 8:35 am

Your correct John, I forgot that his chokes have the slits in it
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Re: Opening up a choke

Post by Turkinator » May 15th, 2017, 8:48 am

You shouldn't have a problem selling it. I'd start over.

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Re: Opening up a choke

Post by Gar Commander » May 15th, 2017, 8:52 am

Sell it and buy another in my opinion.

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Re: Opening up a choke

Post by GLS » May 15th, 2017, 9:02 am

For the hard-headed or hard of hearing. Try unbuffered load before jettisoning choke. It made a difference in my choke. If that doesn't work then get another. Eliminating buffer is one exception to the don't vary recipe proscription. Gii

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Re: Opening up a choke

Post by killerstump » May 15th, 2017, 9:43 am

Sound like with it being heat treated I would be best to move the choke to someone else and call briley instead of trying to open it up.

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Re: Opening up a choke

Post by Turkinator » May 15th, 2017, 1:45 pm

GLS wrote:For the hard-headed or hard of hearing. Try unbuffered load before jettisoning choke. It made a difference in my choke. If that doesn't work then get another. Eliminating buffer is one exception to the don't vary recipe proscription. Gii
Gil, does the elimination of buffer always open the pattern? Or can it work in reverse? I have played around with amounts of buffer but not enough to reach a conclusion. This is very interesting though.

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Re: Opening up a choke

Post by GLS » May 15th, 2017, 5:05 pm

My experience is on two chokes and two guns. On one gun, a .410 , buffer made no difference. On the other gun, a 20, eliminating the buffer opened up the pattern by 25%. Both with TSS loads. It's not predictable, but certainly worth trying before buying another choke. This assumes shooting TSS. Gil

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Re: Opening up a choke

Post by killerstump » May 15th, 2017, 6:13 pm

Seen your post wasn't ignoring u it will be tried

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Re: Opening up a choke

Post by gophert » May 16th, 2017, 10:16 pm

Just don't let the turkey get so close


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Re: Opening up a choke

Post by Johndoe » May 16th, 2017, 10:42 pm

Oh, by the way, is this where I say you don't need this high dollar chokes. A Trulock 585 or so is the ticket.
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Re: Opening up a choke

Post by slickyboyboo » May 16th, 2017, 10:59 pm

Johndoe wrote:Oh, by the way, is this where I say you don't need this high dollar chokes. A Trulock 585 or so is the ticket.
JD, a .585" might be a little open for a 28 ga.


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