Joe Wirth & Apex

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Joe Wirth & Apex

Post by hoobilly » August 14th, 2017, 1:27 pm

Joe is a coyote killing machine! This is #91 since January 1st and finally has killed a coyote with TSS.

Apex has partnered with Joe on testing the effectiveness of TSS on coyotes.

Heres what Apex posted on Facebook: Apex:
Looks like the field testing from Joseph Wirth is going well. Jelly headed at coyote through brush at 35 yards with a our 3 inch 2oz load #2's.
Joe posted
"With the terrain and brush I wouldn't normally take this shot with #4 buck. In consideration of pattern density and penetration of Apex Ammunition I was able to take this shot with confidence."
Looks like Joe is seeing the benefit of TSS and its capabilities in thick brush.
Hope to hear about him busting one at 75 yards plus with that #2 TSS Apex load.


Joe is a MFK Pro Staffer and hoping he will post up more information on his testing in the field with TSS.
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Re: Joe Wirth & Apex

Post by vaturkey » August 14th, 2017, 2:34 pm

Good Job Joe & Apex ! :thumbup:

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Post by soiltester » August 14th, 2017, 2:39 pm

Very impressive .. to say the least :thumbup:
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Post by FloppinTom » August 15th, 2017, 5:07 pm

#2 seem to be larger than needed and cuts down on pattern density significantly. What do the ballistic programs say?
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Re: Joe Wirth & Apex

Post by Spuriosity » August 16th, 2017, 7:40 am

TSS 2s are certainly more pellet size than needed to jelly one's head at 35 yds. Someone on here said they want 3.7" of penetration to kill outgoing yotes on the run. TSS 2s @ 1200 fps will do that to 111 yds, so yeah they are overkill. TSS 5s will do that to 60 yds and would be a better choice IMO.

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Re: Joe Wirth & Apex

Post by SpitNDrumN » August 16th, 2017, 10:01 am

4's at 1300 get 3.7" to 80 yards. And we're pushing them over 1400fps 1.25oz load.

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Re: Joe Wirth & Apex

Post by SpitNDrumN » August 16th, 2017, 10:02 am

It's not just #2's we are experimenting with 2-6

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Re: Joe Wirth & Apex

Post by hoobilly » August 16th, 2017, 10:31 am

Spuriosity wrote:
August 16th, 2017, 7:40 am
TSS 2s are certainly more pellet size than needed to jelly one's head at 35 yds. Someone on here said they want 3.7" of penetration to kill outgoing yotes on the run. TSS 2s @ 1200 fps will do that to 111 yds, so yeah they are overkill. TSS 5s will do that to 60 yds and would be a better choice IMO.
I tried telling that to them guys on the Predator nation. But when a person has been using crap factory loads for ever.. its hard to get them to see the possibilities with TSS.

Joe Wirth is seeing how effective (even only at 35 yards) as the shot he took was in very thick stuff and smote that yote with ease.

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Post by el diablo » August 16th, 2017, 11:23 am

This guys did some interesting testing http://www.predatormastersforums.com/fo ... er=3074269.

I wonder if 6's would still pattern ok thru turkey choke. Most if my yote hunting is opportunistic while I am after a turkey. Be nice to have a load that would smoke one to 60 and work in the .555-.562 IC.

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Post by WV Ridge Reaper » August 16th, 2017, 8:14 pm

Wonder if I I shoot squacks with apex loads I can get on the pro staff.


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Re: Joe Wirth & Apex

Post by hoobilly » August 16th, 2017, 8:19 pm

el diablo wrote:
August 16th, 2017, 11:23 am
This guys did some interesting testing http://www.predatormastersforums.com/fo ... er=3074269.

I wonder if 6's would still pattern ok thru turkey choke. Most if my yote hunting is opportunistic while I am after a turkey. Be nice to have a load that would smoke one to 60 and work in the .555-.562 IC.
conventional wisdom would say 562 or more open... but you never know until you try it.

6's in a 20 would easily smoke a coyote at 60

someones gonna come up with a great tss load that hopefully be versatile for turkeys and varmints

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