Ticeman wrote:Turkey Talker wrote:NIGHTFORCE x2. dont mess with that SS Garbage.
Doesn't make sense (too me at least) to put on optics that cost more than the gun when it's only going to get shot 20-40 rds/yr., if you spend any time reading what long range shooters use, they say the scope in the link will run with Leupold all day long, I have to take their word on it, they speak from years of experience.
Leupold is a great scope, no doubt, I love the Mk4, just don't like the price.
you need to do some more reading my friend. your first initial post was only about getting down range. that was it. now your adding 20-40 rounds per year. whats your purpose here with that gun? shooting deer at 500 yards or do you want to reach out and hit something at 1000 yards?
I was in the Navy for 5 years/ 3 of which I was in SWCC SBU 18. I worked with SEAL Team 6 and went to advanced sniper training with 2 of my friends from the team in Virginia. So,I do know "a little bit"
of what I'm talking about when it comes to loads, weapons, and prices for optics. If you depend on a weapon with your life, you will trust the weapon to hold true all the way to the impact of the kill shot. You cannot "CANNOT" trust cheaper scopes. Its the same as cold barrel technology and advanced glass pressure points.
YOU CAN ALSO USE THIS SCOPE "BUY ONCE CRY ONCE" on other applications (rifles) not only the one lead thrower.
Here is what you need to remind yourself or what we are trained to know. EQUIPMENT is #1, you cannot perform the job 100 times over again with cheap garbage, consistency is what matters, then you have Mindset, Tactics, then finally skill.
You need to determine what you yourself are looking for in a scope. you want some garbage that will get you by or do you want a fine piece of glass that will give you the precision that you need to make surgical incisions. PRICE, in most cases you WILL pay 2 times the price of the gun for quality glass. DURABILITY, you need something that can take abuse from an accidental jostle or drop, I have personally had this happen to a Luepold in the field. Scary situation "yes" very disappointing and talk about a waste of time, when you finally get to where your going and realize your planet isn't aligned with your rifle.Durability also comes with being able to zero that optic every time "ie ZERO STOP" a lot of optics have this problem, but since you only need to shoot 20 rounds a year this would be pointless for you. If your mildots are off from zero, your 27.77 math is ALL WRONG = poorly placed shot. VARIABLE, if you want to use a larger caliber and know a male from a female at a 1000 yards, i promise you that you will be close if not into the 20 power x range. RETICLE, this all depends on the shooter and what they like to see through the glass and what helps the shooter engage the target faster and be able to distance objects. Mildots are my pick Maybe not yours. LOW LIGHT CAPABILITIES, There is alot of info about this on the net, this is a very important piece to the game, if you can't see at 5 in the am with a 2000 dollar scope, your cheap scope will not perform at all. you get what you pay for. light is a huge obstacle in shooting especially at further distances. OBJECTIVE LENS SIZE, larger size lens = more light, easier to see targets.
Then you need your base and rings, which why in the hell would you cheap out on those? your talking at least 200 bucks for solid construction.
Finally don't forget some handy dandy DATA CARDS! get some ballistic cards so you dont have to make educated guesses out in the field. leave the pencil and calculator at the house and start killing out to 800 yards and on.
So again i ask, what are you using the gun for. There are many high end scopes, NIGHTFORCE, USOptics ect. I said to stay away from SS or "SWFA" garbage and I meant it. Super Sniper scopes are junk!
-TT
This Nikon ain't gonna cut it for any long range stuff.
My 10 yr old even shot it, and wanted more. 
