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Re: Federal TSS

Post by ICDEDTURKES » December 26th, 2017, 10:21 pm

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December 26th, 2017, 4:46 pm
I talk to them. They have changed to a softer wad in 12 and 20. Now I think that may be more trouble then good. The 20 wad was ok the 12 was way to hard and I think to big around. (.730) If they get to soft you will need to tip toe around the set up. That wad opens one of the side wing/stop/ ???? you want to call it and shot has not left the wad it slings them. They take them out and let the back of wad slow it down they do better I think.

Now the 410 will stay the same normal wad.

Now the marketing is what I want to see. They told me they get over 500 in 10 with full choke. I just went along with him. Told him I test them when they came in.
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Re: Federal TSS

Post by fountain » December 27th, 2017, 6:09 pm

SumToy wrote:
December 26th, 2017, 4:46 pm
I talk to them. They have changed to a softer wad in 12 and 20. Now I think that may be more trouble then good. The 20 wad was ok the 12 was way to hard and I think to big around. (.730) If they get to soft you will need to tip toe around the set up. That wad opens one of the side wing/stop/ ???? you want to call it and shot has not left the wad it slings them. They take them out and let the back of wad slow it down they do better I think.

Now the 410 will stay the same normal wad.

Now the marketing is what I want to see. They told me they get over 500 in 10 with full choke. I just went along with him. Told him I test them when they came in.
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Re: Federal TSS

Post by VALongbeard » December 27th, 2017, 9:23 pm

500 in a 10 inch circle? What are they patterning at? 25 yards? And a full choke? If 40 yards, I'm calling BS.

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Re: Federal TSS

Post by SumToy » December 28th, 2017, 9:04 am

VALongbeard wrote:
December 27th, 2017, 9:23 pm
500 in a 10 inch circle? What are they patterning at? 25 yards? And a full choke? If 40 yards, I'm calling BS.
Alot of that going on the past year. I must get all the junk shells, Junk guns, tapes measure that dont work or something. You got to love the marketing to sale but it always comes back to bite them all in long run.

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Re: Federal TSS

Post by PALongspur » December 28th, 2017, 3:33 pm

I'm disappointed that the 20 gauge #9 load is only 1000 fps. Seems almost like a wash to switch from the Heavyweight 7s to this new shell in a #7, especially since you're losing pellet count.

Any thoughts?

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Re: Federal TSS

Post by SumToy » December 28th, 2017, 5:03 pm

PALongspur wrote:
December 28th, 2017, 3:33 pm
I'm disappointed that the 20 gauge #9 load is only 1000 fps. Seems almost like a wash to switch from the Heavyweight 7s to this new shell in a #7, especially since you're losing pellet count.

Any thoughts?
I would take the HWT 7s over the TSS 7s. Now the 9s should be better but who knows with the new wad.

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Re: Federal TSS

Post by ICDEDTURKES » December 28th, 2017, 9:05 pm

SumToy wrote:
December 28th, 2017, 5:03 pm
PALongspur wrote:
December 28th, 2017, 3:33 pm
I'm disappointed that the 20 gauge #9 load is only 1000 fps. Seems almost like a wash to switch from the Heavyweight 7s to this new shell in a #7, especially since you're losing pellet count.

Any thoughts?
I would take the HWT 7s over the TSS 7s. Now the 9s should be better but who knows with the new wad.
I agree. We have around 40k turkey hunters here. I betcha maybe 1000 have heard of TSS maybe less. Those whom have and are interested in it are gonna do their due diligence in research and realize 8.5-9.5 are the sweet spot for most hunters. Why 7?

Now with I believe it's called Apex and Nitro, their gonna generate some awareness to the product, but in reality it's the same niche market Nitros catered to for decades, just building a better mouse trap for those people.

Federal could probably do more for TSS than anyone if they market it right, but 7s???
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Re: Federal TSS

Post by hoobilly » December 28th, 2017, 10:11 pm

ICDEDTURKES wrote:
December 28th, 2017, 9:05 pm
Why 7?

Now with I believe it's called Apex and Nitro, their gonna generate some awareness to the product, but in reality it's the same niche market Nitros catered to for decades, just building a better mouse trap for those people.

Federal could probably do more for TSS than anyone if they market it right, but 7s???
I like TSS 7's and 8's over 9's


I happen to have a couple lbs of 9's left over from last year and thought to you use them in my 28ga guns But I might just sell them and go with 7 or 8's for the 10 and 28 too

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Re: Federal TSS

Post by Turkinator » December 29th, 2017, 8:23 am

NBK wrote:
December 26th, 2017, 7:29 pm
I will stick with reloading my own TSS, I know what I got
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Re: Federal TSS

Post by Sloppy_Snood » December 31st, 2017, 6:40 pm

No worries guys,,, once Federal runs out of wads (soft, hard, medium-rare, whatever), the next wad they use will be completely different in hardness/softness. Then you can start the testing process all over again.

General advice? Load your own. :thumbup:
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Re: Federal TSS

Post by devastator » January 1st, 2018, 8:10 am

Sloppy_Snood wrote:
December 31st, 2017, 6:40 pm
No worries guys,,, once Federal runs out of wads (soft, hard, medium-rare, whatever), the next wad they use will be completely different in hardness/softness. Then you can start the testing process all over again.

General advice? Load your own. :thumbup:
Yep,thats my thoughts as well,and i will keep on loading my own cause i love doing it.
I wonder,do they not have somebody retesting these loads when they change the wads,
or are they thinking they should still shoot the same :dontknow:
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Re: Federal TSS

Post by arhuntingfool » January 9th, 2018, 9:32 am

https://www.federalpremium.com/download ... g_2018.pdf

Search for TSS in the catalog link above and you can see all of the information on it. They will be offer it in there 3rd degree loads as well. Interesting that they have jumped on the TSS bandwagon.

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Re: Federal TSS

Post by howl » January 9th, 2018, 10:16 am

The 3rd Degree load looks interesting. Wonder if it'll actually do, now that it has 40% TSS 7s.

Looks like they're going after WInchester Longbeards pretty hard.

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Re: Federal TSS

Post by hoobilly » January 9th, 2018, 8:02 pm

howl wrote:
January 9th, 2018, 10:16 am
The 3rd Degree load looks interesting. Wonder if it'll actually do, now that it has 40% TSS 7s.

Looks like they're going after WInchester Longbeards pretty hard.
whats the price difference in them?

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Re: Federal TSS

Post by howl » January 9th, 2018, 8:33 pm

There is that.

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Re: Federal TSS

Post by Rockhound » January 10th, 2018, 9:34 pm

hoobilly wrote:
January 9th, 2018, 8:02 pm
howl wrote:
January 9th, 2018, 10:16 am
The 3rd Degree load looks interesting. Wonder if it'll actually do, now that it has 40% TSS 7s.

Looks like they're going after WInchester Longbeards pretty hard.
whats the price difference in them?
At this point it doesn't matter. They know they have to compete in some form and as long as Winchester is producing LB. Other lead turkey load companies may as well close up shop. Your about to the point of no competition in the turkey load market, and there is really no way to advance past this point.

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Re: Federal TSS

Post by SumToy » January 11th, 2018, 9:17 am

All jokes aside. HV13 has not had much to say the past few years. What yall think they up to. They just scratch head or they got something in the works like federal did.

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Re: Federal TSS

Post by howl » January 11th, 2018, 3:36 pm

IDK about Hevi, but I've patterned lead that did better than that last box I tried.

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Re: Federal TSS

Post by hoobilly » January 11th, 2018, 9:16 pm

SumToy wrote:
January 11th, 2018, 9:17 am
All jokes aside. HV13 has not had much to say the past few years. What yall think they up to. They just scratch head or they got something in the works like federal did.
They best come up with something lol

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Re: Federal TSS

Post by fountain » January 30th, 2018, 5:00 pm

I see the new federal shells in the cabelas spring catalog. Pricing isn't terrible either. I see they have a 1 1/2 oz 20 and a light 1 3/4 12 ga load. I believe the .410 load is a misprint though. They have it listed as 1 3/16, but think they may mean 13/16.
They days of being a rare breed and shooting "rat shot are over". I know I was a late bloomer to tss starting in 2012, but I always loved the reactions I got when people asked what kind of shell I shot for turkeys and I replied a 20 ga with #9s

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Re: Federal TSS

Post by howl » January 30th, 2018, 5:47 pm

Be interesting to track costs with trying .410, testing for choke, occasional testing to make sure they didn't screw up the load vs same with handloads.

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Re: Federal TSS

Post by SKFOOTER » February 5th, 2018, 4:59 pm

Rogers Sporting Goods has the Federal TSS 12 gauge 3" #7 and #9 loads available.

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Re: Federal TSS

Post by aristico » February 10th, 2018, 3:36 pm

Is it just me or did the federal tss disappear from Cabelas website?

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Re: Federal TSS

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Re: Federal TSS

Post by aristico » February 10th, 2018, 4:17 pm

I put Cabelas not federals

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