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Post by birdsandspurs » March 23rd, 2017, 8:41 pm

Why do people worry about it being so "shiny"? Are hunters being more picky than the shotgun? You can't see the shot, it's in the hull and gone after you shoot at a animal?


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Post by redarrow » March 23rd, 2017, 8:46 pm

Never heard anybody complain about the shine.
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Post by bowhunter2k9 » March 23rd, 2017, 8:50 pm

Polished is what people want, just means better quality and more likely to be perfectly spherical. I haven't heard anybody say that in a long while though

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Re: Tss

Post by birdsandspurs » March 23rd, 2017, 8:53 pm

redarrow wrote:Never heard anybody complain about the shine.
Not complain. I mean people say they would rather shoot pretty bb over a dirty looking bb. I've read about dirty killing birds just as good. Is it a reason for people to just charge more


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Re: Tss

Post by Turkinator » March 23rd, 2017, 9:22 pm

redarrow wrote:Never heard anybody complain about the shine.
Me either.

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Post by hoobilly » March 23rd, 2017, 9:50 pm

when its dirty your buying the dirty residual from the process of it being made.

I would pay a little more for the better quality and get what I am paying for. not dirty shot

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Post by killerstump » March 23rd, 2017, 9:54 pm

See bud now Ima let you in on a secret here. It's a small secret among us that when you pull that trigger and the shot is in the air when the sun hits it it blinds the turkey before it even gets to him. That way if you miss he doesn't know which way to run.


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Post by hoobilly » March 23rd, 2017, 10:03 pm

killerstump wrote:See bud now Ima let you in on a secret here. It's a small secret among us that when you pull that trigger and the shot is in the air when the sun hits it it blinds the turkey before it even gets to him. That way if you miss he doesn't know which way to run.


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and you wont get that with dirty shot! :LMAO: :LMAO: :LMAO: :turkeywave:

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Post by blingslinger » March 23rd, 2017, 10:37 pm

Serious question, does shiny or dirty TSS pattern any difference? Wouldn't it be like new shiny lead vs oxidized lead? Shouldn't really matter, I wouldn't think.

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Re: Tss

Post by Turkinator » March 24th, 2017, 4:46 am

killerstump wrote:See bud now Ima let you in on a secret here. It's a small secret among us that when you pull that trigger and the shot is in the air when the sun hits it it blinds the turkey before it even gets to him. That way if you miss he doesn't know which way to run.


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you were not supposed to leak that information out

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Post by Turkinator » March 24th, 2017, 5:15 am

the polish is not for looks or to jack up the price, its to produce a perfectly round pellet. Thats one of the reasons tss produces the amazing patterns it does. A tss loaded 20 or 28ga will outshoot any factory load being offered

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Post by birdsandspurs » March 24th, 2017, 9:20 am

My research over time shows the dirty tungsten shot killed as many birds. And probably still Does. Is there valid proof of the shot just being overall better or is it just hypothetical.


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Post by birdsandspurs » March 24th, 2017, 9:22 am

killerstump wrote:See bud now Ima let you in on a secret here. It's a small secret among us that when you pull that trigger and the shot is in the air when the sun hits it it blinds the turkey before it even gets to him. That way if you miss he doesn't know which way to run.


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Then maybe I should shoot the dirty because I don't miss!!


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Re: Tss

Post by Reloader » March 24th, 2017, 9:32 am

Shiny is just a byproduct of the shot being surface ground. It comes out of the press/die with a band, then it's surface ground to a perfectly round ball, which comes out shiny. Surface ground shot does produce higher count patterns than banded shot, but it's not an apples to apples comparison as the banded shot is larger, hence less pellet count than ground. If comparing like counts, they are pretty close.

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Post by hoobilly » March 24th, 2017, 4:44 pm

Reloader wrote:Shiny is just a byproduct of the shot being surface ground. It comes out of the press/die with a band, then it's surface ground to a perfectly round ball, which comes out shiny. Surface ground shot does produce higher count patterns than banded shot, but it's not an apples to apples comparison as the banded shot is larger, hence less pellet count than ground. If comparing like counts, they are pretty close.
when it comes to being purty I don't care what stuff looks like.

now my question is with the high cost of tss. if your receiving dirty shot (i.e. dust & residual particles from being formed and not cleaned)
are you getting ripped off a little?

The shot I buy from Tommy has no dust or residual waste from being made.

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Post by guesswho » March 24th, 2017, 4:58 pm

I killed a couple with that shiny stuff. But the shine is why I switched back.
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Post by vaturkey » March 24th, 2017, 6:25 pm

SOME people sell dirty low grade shot at a Shiny Polished price until they find out that someone else is selling shiny polished high grade shot at a better price . Then they lower their price of the dirty shot cause they are scared they gonna lose a few dollars .

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Post by turkey_slayer » March 24th, 2017, 7:16 pm

guesswho wrote:I killed a couple with that shiny stuff. But the shine is why I switched back.
You need to go back as I figured out the advantage. When you shoot at the gobbler on a sunny day the glare coming off the shot blinds him and he can't see which way to run. It's like spot lighting deer but during the day and it's legal

Edit. Dang stumpy beat me to it. Guess I should read the whole thread first

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Re: Tss

Post by Shooter » March 24th, 2017, 8:08 pm

This thread made me laugh. Especially with the comments from the comedians!!!
Of course it makes a difference! In every Dang way!!! Patterns are improved, flies through the air smoother, less velocity decrease with distance, penetrates better with less resistance, squeezes through the choke smoother, and most of all, loaders like looking at pretty shot when they load em, instead of that crap that looks like it was swept off the floor.
As far as the expense goes, I could have swore 47 was less than 60 something.
That is the whole reason I went out on my own to find better quality, at a reasonable price.
I got tired of paying 60 something for crap that looked like it was swept off the floor on Friday.
Specially when the price of tungsten has dropped more than two years now. :toothy7: :toothy7:

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Re: Tss

Post by vaturkey » March 24th, 2017, 8:18 pm

You just keep selling THE GOOD STUFF TOMMY ! Word is getting around ! :thumbup:

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Re: Tss

Post by Buck39647 » March 26th, 2017, 3:42 am

Just shoot them in the EYE then they can't see how shiny it was lol :thumbup:

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Post by appalachianassassin » March 26th, 2017, 1:54 pm

Turkinator wrote:the polish is not for looks or to jack up the price, its to produce a perfectly round pellet. Thats one of the reasons tss produces the amazing patterns it does. A tss loaded 20 or 28ga will outshoot any factory load being offered
my 12 ga puts 300 plus at 60 yds with 9s. that's as good as any factory load from any gun at 40 yds.
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Post by Turkinator » March 26th, 2017, 3:25 pm

appalachianassassin wrote:
Turkinator wrote:the polish is not for looks or to jack up the price, its to produce a perfectly round pellet. Thats one of the reasons tss produces the amazing patterns it does. A tss loaded 20 or 28ga will outshoot any factory load being offered
my 12 ga puts 300 plus at 60 yds with 9s. that's as good as any factory load from any gun at 40 yds.
There's nothing factory loaded to match it.

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Re: Tss

Post by hoobilly » March 26th, 2017, 3:39 pm

Turkinator wrote:
appalachianassassin wrote:
Turkinator wrote:the polish is not for looks or to jack up the price, its to produce a perfectly round pellet. Thats one of the reasons tss produces the amazing patterns it does. A tss loaded 20 or 28ga will outshoot any factory load being offered
my 12 ga puts 300 plus at 60 yds with 9s. that's as good as any factory load from any gun at 40 yds.
There's nothing factory loaded to match it.
WRONG!

You just have to shoot 2 of the best factory loads to equal one TSS

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