Yildiz vs. Savage 220B .410 shoot-out (sorta...)

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Yildiz vs. Savage 220B .410 shoot-out (sorta...)

Post by GLS » May 11th, 2013, 1:10 pm

I purchased a second Yildiz .410 and took delivery of a Savage 220B .410 this weekend. I had an opportunity to shoot each at 40 yards this morning with TSS 9’s, 13/16 oz. While one shot is not a statistical certainty, it gave me a good idea of what lies in store for both down the road. My first Yildiz .410 has a 4 shot average of 101 inside the 10” ring with a high of 110 and a low of 88. I was expecting the same from the newer Yildiz.
I weighed each new gun. Not surprising, Yildiz #2 weighed in at 3 lbs, 3.1 oz. with its 28” factory full barrel and alloy receiver. A mere wisp of gun, but proven deadly in the field this past season with my first Yildiz. For a gun costing $139 with sales tax included, the Yildiz also has remarkably nice walnut with hand cut checkering. I was in Athens, Ga., yesterday for daughter’s graduation and I bought myself a graduation present at Academy Sports. As for the Savage, the wood was plain, no checkering. Surprisingly, it weighed a whopping 5 lbs., 13 oz. with its 26” barrel. My 20 gauge 220A weighs a flat 5 lbs. After studying the gun, the weight is a factor of the gun being built on a larger gauge’s gun frame and an overbuilt barrel. In order to center the firing pin in the firing chamber, the wall thickness of the chamber is a stout .365” compared with the Yildiz’s .18”. The Yildiz shot a disappointing 74 in the 10” ring and 78 in the 10-20” ring. This is low-borderline in my estimation for a 40 yard turkey gun. A trip to Mr. Lambert at Sumtoy is probably in order for a sleeved choke. The Savage with its 26” full did a respectable 110/106. I’ll leave it as is and mount a red dot. With a full bead showing above the receiver’s slotted sight, it shot a foot high at 20 yards. I had to aim at the bottom of the paper to pattern it a 40 yards. A red dot is in order for it.
Despite the lower 10” ring numbers, I think the design, wood quality, and uber-lightness of the Yildiz wins in the cool factor category. I carried Yildiz #1 most of this past season, and tricked-out with red dot and sling, it’s 3 lbs., 9 oz. was a pleasure to carry. I think William can improve the numbers on Yildiz #2. Stay tuned.
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Re: Yildiz vs. Savage 220B .410 shoot-out (sorta...)

Post by pedro » May 11th, 2013, 1:21 pm

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Post by Spuriosity » May 11th, 2013, 8:46 pm

Pushing the envelope, you boys are. Very cool.

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Re: Yildiz vs. Savage 220B .410 shoot-out (sorta...)

Post by hoobilly » May 15th, 2013, 2:47 pm

have that Savage fluted and drop a lb of steel!

looks good. I aim to be shooting my dads RedLabel 28 next spring. gotta get my order in for tss soon

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Re: Yildiz vs. Savage 220B .410 shoot-out (sorta...)

Post by GLS » May 15th, 2013, 3:32 pm

hoobilly wrote:have that Savage fluted and drop a lb of steel!

looks good. I aim to be shooting my dads RedLabel 28 next spring. gotta get my order in for tss soon
That's an idea, but at 5 lbs., 13 oz., it's still "light", but tubby in comparison with the Yildiz, but then so is a 1911A pistol with a loaded magazine. ;). Bet I could hollow the stock without much difficulty with a Forstner bit. Better just leave light enough alone. ;) Gil

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Yildiz vs. Savage 220B .410 shoot-out (sorta...)

Post by BrentM » May 20th, 2013, 9:02 am

Gil I have the same Yildiz .410 and actually had it camo-dipped while I was getting another gun dipped. I never got a chance to hunt with it because the little gun shoots so bad low and to the left I couldn't hardly even get shot on paper at 35 yards.
It was too close to turkey season to worry about getting a red dot for it when I started shooting it. Maybe next year.

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Post by GLS » May 20th, 2013, 11:17 am

Brent, I'd love to see photos of your camo'd mere wisp of a gun. The little gun continues to amaze me.
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Re: Yildiz vs. Savage 220B .410 shoot-out (sorta...)

Post by Shooter » May 20th, 2013, 11:31 am

Have you guys ever heard of a Noble auto 410??? Dude brought it out for me to repair. Looked like a piece of crap to me, but it is light and shoulders well.
Picked up a few 2 1/2" #6s Fed Hi-power shells to run through it and see if it cycled.
A squirrel was in Granny's flowers and jumped out and ran about 35yds. I fired, and it was like nothing ever came out. He did run off pretty quick though. I must have not fixed it either, cause it didn't cycle.
I think the 20 is as small as I'm gonna go with,...lol

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Post by BrentM » May 22nd, 2013, 9:57 pm

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Sorry that took me so long Gil. I knew I had been forgetting something the past couple days.
I had this little gun and my 20 gauge dipped before turkey season started this year.

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Re: Yildiz vs. Savage 220B .410 shoot-out (sorta...)

Post by GLS » May 23rd, 2013, 12:25 pm

Brent, don't you love the weight of that little gun? It looks fabulous. Who did it? I had trigger work done on mine to ease the pull and eliminate creep. I bought one for a friend and the trigger was perfect out of the box. How is your trigger? Gil

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Post by hoobilly » May 23rd, 2013, 5:46 pm

Shooter wrote:Have you guys ever heard of a Noble auto 410??? Dude brought it out for me to repair. Looked like a piece of crap to me, but it is light and shoulders well.
Picked up a few 2 1/2" #6s Fed Hi-power shells to run through it and see if it cycled.
A squirrel was in Granny's flowers and jumped out and ran about 35yds. I fired, and it was like nothing ever came out. He did run off pretty quick though. I must have not fixed it either, cause it didn't cycle.
I think the 20 is as small as I'm gonna go with,...lol
I have never laid eyes on one firsthand, only saw pictures and values in the gun digest.

Would love to see one and handle it.

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Post by BrentM » May 23rd, 2013, 10:21 pm

Gil it was done by dip2design in Guntersville, AL. He did a great job on it and it only took him a few days. The pattern is mothwing woodland mimicry.
The trigger is horrible on mine by the way, not a bunch of creep but it feels like it breaks at about 8-9 lbs. I'm gonna have to get it worked before I start hunting with it.
I'm very interested in hearing about this sleeve choke William is making.
Here is a pic of the little .410 with my 870 compact. Dip2Design did both of them for me at the same time.
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Post by Spuriosity » May 24th, 2013, 6:38 am

Those are some great looking pop guns. Amazing that TSS has turned those into legitimate 40 yd turkey slayers. Very cool.

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Post by GOLD HUNTER » May 24th, 2013, 7:50 am

:thumbup: cool !!!
LET'S GO TROUT FISHING

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Re: Yildiz vs. Savage 220B .410 shoot-out (sorta...)

Post by GLS » May 25th, 2013, 7:19 am

Tommy, can't say that I have seen or heard of the Noble. But then I don't get out that much.... ;) Gil

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Post by poorcountrypreacher » May 25th, 2013, 8:04 am

Gil - HomelessjOe will be proud of you! :)

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Post by GLS » May 25th, 2013, 8:55 am

poorcountrypreacher wrote:Gil - HomelessjOe will be proud of you! :)
My life's work is done. ;)

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Re: Yildiz vs. Savage 220B .410 shoot-out (sorta...)

Post by N2deer » May 25th, 2013, 9:52 pm

Brent those look good. Is that camo a lighter brown base or more grey?

I cant tell really from the picture.

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