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Rem 870 20ga youth 21" barrel, and Hal's Big 20 Stubby XL

Posted: September 17th, 2017, 9:37 pm
by 2Shooter
Rem 870 youth 20ga with a 1 5/8 oz of TSS 9's. Kick's Gobblin Thunder .560 choke. 40 yards 363 in the 10" 226 in the 10" - 20" 589 total in the 20".
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Re: Rem 870 20ga youth 21"barrel, and Hal' Big 20 Stubby XL

Posted: September 17th, 2017, 9:40 pm
by BeardBuster
Awesome pattern!What length barrel?


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Re: Rem 870 20ga youth 21

Posted: September 17th, 2017, 9:56 pm
by 2Shooter
BeardBuster wrote: September 17th, 2017, 9:40 pm Awesome pattern!What length barrel?


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Thanks, the barrel is 21 inches.

Re: Rem 870 20ga youth 21"barrel, and Hal' Big 20 Stubby XL

Posted: September 18th, 2017, 7:52 am
by el diablo
Doesn't get any better than that! Awesome pattern.

Re: Rem 870 20ga youth 21"barrel, and Hal' Big 20 Stubby XL

Posted: September 18th, 2017, 9:25 am
by pullit
Great pattern

Re: Rem 870 20ga youth 21"barrel, and Hal' Big 20 Stubby XL

Posted: September 18th, 2017, 5:36 pm
by 2Shooter
Thanks fellas, that Big 20 Stubby XL is a awesome load!!!

Re: Rem 870 20ga youth 21" barrel, and Hal's Big 20 Stubby XL

Posted: September 19th, 2017, 9:23 pm
by Hoobilly
I hate them kicks tubes. owned a lot of them.. but when that feller said Hevishot wasn't safe I sold them all.

TSS i much denser and thus very ver unsafe.. :LMAO:

Re: Rem 870 20ga youth 21" barrel, and Hal's Big 20 Stubby XL

Posted: September 21st, 2017, 10:16 am
by jhogue
hoobilly wrote: September 19th, 2017, 9:23 pm I hate them kicks tubes. owned a lot of them.. but when that feller said Hevishot wasn't safe I sold them all.

TSS i much denser and thus very ver unsafe.. :LMAO:
So I've had a question related to this since I bought a Kick GT670 for my SX3. Are Kick's chokes save with Hevi-shot and TSS? I've shot Hevi-Shot through my GT 655 in my 870 SM for several years without issue. I know Kick's says their chokes aren't designed for HTL, but does anyone know a good reason? I've never heard of one getting shot out or ruining a barrel.

Re: Rem 870 20ga youth 21" barrel, and Hal's Big 20 Stubby XL

Posted: September 21st, 2017, 11:09 am
by Jbird22
Holy smokes that is a great pattern!!!

Re: Rem 870 20ga youth 21" barrel, and Hal's Big 20 Stubby XL

Posted: September 22nd, 2017, 3:55 am
by 2Shooter
Jbird22 wrote: September 21st, 2017, 11:09 am Holy smokes that is a great pattern!!!
Thanks Jason, I've had the choke for about 20 years, and it never really patterned that well with lead shot. But man was I shocked when I shot TSS 9's through it!!! :cheers:

Re: Rem 870 20ga youth 21" barrel, and Hal's Big 20 Stubby XL

Posted: September 23rd, 2017, 4:45 am
by hawglips
Mighty strong...

Re: Rem 870 20ga youth 21" barrel, and Hal's Big 20 Stubby XL

Posted: September 23rd, 2017, 5:48 am
by HookedSpur83
That's a good looking pattern.

Re: Rem 870 20ga youth 21" barrel, and Hal's Big 20 Stubby XL

Posted: September 24th, 2017, 2:17 pm
by Turkinator
That will work! !!

Re: Rem 870 20ga youth 21" barrel, and Hal's Big 20 Stubby XL

Posted: September 24th, 2017, 10:13 pm
by 2Shooter
Thanks Fellas

Re: Rem 870 20ga youth 21" barrel, and Hal's Big 20 Stubby XL

Posted: December 4th, 2017, 10:46 am
by xarcher
That dog will hunt

Re: Rem 870 20ga youth 21" barrel, and Hal's Big 20 Stubby XL

Posted: December 4th, 2017, 11:57 am
by turkeyinstrut
NICE PATTERN!!!.........I am getting numbers similar to that in my M2 with a .555 IC tube with Hal's Big 20 XL load but I'm going to give his Stubby load a try as well as his new 2 1/8 oz. load.

Re: Rem 870 20ga youth 21" barrel, and Hal's Big 20 Stubby XL

Posted: December 4th, 2017, 9:39 pm
by 2Shooter
turkeyinstrut wrote: December 4th, 2017, 11:57 am NICE PATTERN!!!.........I am getting numbers similar to that in my M2 with a .555 IC tube with Hal's Big 20 XL load but I'm going to give his Stubby load a try as well as his new 2 1/8 oz. load.
Thanks, I don't think the 2 1/8 load will cycle in your M2, and I think it's to much for a semi auto. Try the Stubby, and I think you will like the wad. :thumbup:

Re: Rem 870 20ga youth 21" barrel, and Hal's Big 20 Stubby XL

Posted: December 5th, 2017, 12:00 pm
by turkeyinstrut
2Shooter wrote: December 4th, 2017, 9:39 pm
turkeyinstrut wrote: December 4th, 2017, 11:57 am NICE PATTERN!!!.........I am getting numbers similar to that in my M2 with a .555 IC tube with Hal's Big 20 XL load but I'm going to give his Stubby load a try as well as his new 2 1/8 oz. load.
Thanks, I don't think the 2 1/8 load will cycle in your M2, and I think it's to much for a semi auto. Try the Stubby, and I think you will like the wad. :thumbup:
I wondered about the recoil being too much for a auto and you are probably correct there, I was going to run Hal's MOA 20 load in the chamber and 2 Stubby loads in the magazine. :mrgreen:

Re: Rem 870 20ga youth 21" barrel, and Hal's Big 20 Stubby XL

Posted: December 5th, 2017, 9:55 pm
by 2Shooter
Strut, have you tried the Lil Zip load? I think with the wad it uses will pattern better through your I C choke. My Kicks GT ate the wad up in the MOA load. Let me know your results of which one you shoot. Good luck, but I wouldn't shoot the MOA load in your M2.

Re: Rem 870 20ga youth 21" barrel, and Hal's Big 20 Stubby XL

Posted: December 6th, 2017, 8:06 am
by turkeyinstrut
2Shooter wrote: December 5th, 2017, 9:55 pm Strut, have you tried the Lil Zip load? I think with the wad it uses will pattern better through your I C choke. My Kicks GT ate the wad up in the MOA load. Let me know your results of which one you shoot. Good luck, but I wouldn't shoot the MOA load in your M2.
No I didn't get the Lil Zip recipe from Hal but I did get his Big 20 Stubby load recipe, does it use the same wad? I really like the Big 20 XL load but have a hard time getting it short enough to cycle in my M2, does anybody make a spring kit For the 20 ga. M2 as even the Big 20 XL load has purdy stiff recoil?

Re: Rem 870 20ga youth 21" barrel, and Hal's Big 20 Stubby XL

Posted: December 6th, 2017, 5:44 pm
by DC1.
turkeyinstrut wrote: December 6th, 2017, 8:06 am
2Shooter wrote: December 5th, 2017, 9:55 pm Strut, have you tried the Lil Zip load? I think with the wad it uses will pattern better through your I C choke. My Kicks GT ate the wad up in the MOA load. Let me know your results of which one you shoot. Good luck, but I wouldn't shoot the MOA load in your M2.
No I didn't get the Lil Zip recipe from Hal but I did get his Big 20 Stubby load recipe, does it use the same wad? I really like the Big 20 XL load but have a hard time getting it short enough to cycle in my M2, does anybody make a spring kit For the 20 ga. M2 as even the Big 20 XL load has purdy stiff recoil?
How much hull are you trimming? I've shot the BIG 20 XL in a M1 and M2 with no problems.

Re: Rem 870 20ga youth 21" barrel, and Hal's Big 20 Stubby XL

Posted: December 6th, 2017, 6:49 pm
by turkeyinstrut
DC1. wrote: December 6th, 2017, 5:44 pm
turkeyinstrut wrote: December 6th, 2017, 8:06 am
2Shooter wrote: December 5th, 2017, 9:55 pm Strut, have you tried the Lil Zip load? I think with the wad it uses will pattern better through your I C choke. My Kicks GT ate the wad up in the MOA load. Let me know your results of which one you shoot. Good luck, but I wouldn't shoot the MOA load in your M2.
No I didn't get the Lil Zip recipe from Hal but I did get his Big 20 Stubby load recipe, does it use the same wad? I really like the Big 20 XL load but have a hard time getting it short enough to cycle in my M2, does anybody make a spring kit For the 20 ga. M2 as even the Big 20 XL load has purdy stiff recoil?
How much hull are you trimming? I've shot the BIG 20 XL in a M1 and M2 with no problems.
I am leaving about 3/16" sticking above the OSC, I have got them to where they cycle fine now as they are .015 to .020 shorter than a 3" Fed. Heavyweight. In the beginning they were too long but after some trial and error I got it figured out.